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Proposal w/nav keys

Posted By: Dan LeGate <>
Date: Monday, 7 September 1998, at 6:54 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Arrows and mnumonics... (Walter Rassbach)

> No, I do use them (although most of the programs I use are
> fairly configurable and I have those functions assigned to different
> keys) -- It is not the movement that is awkward per se, it is the
> movement in this particular context where I have my hands on the
> main keyboard (I ain't flexible enough anymore to hit the arrows
> from the main keyboard...).

Interesting... when using Ztree I find that my left hand usually rests on the ASDF, but my right hand is almost always hovering over the HOME, END, PAGEUP, PAGEDOWN and ARROW keys area since I'm usually moving all over the directory tree. Rarely is it over the JKL: keys for very long unless I'm typing something long - which doesn't happen often in Ztree for me. In fact, I've found this pattern (right hand over nav keys) in many of the programs I use, especially when web surfing.

> I see no reason why both sets of keys could not be available,
> ...
> I just would NOT like to see the ctrl-arrow
> keys used to the exclusion of the ' ' keys in this context (I believe
> we are talking about the rename here, NOT navigation...) since those
> keys are not "usable" (in the context) in any other way...

Yes, agreed... if Kim wants to make it an option. If he wants to go just one way though, I'll learn it.

My (somewhat modified) proposal is: (this is only for text-entry areas like "rename" or "copy as")

Ctrl-Right Arrow: would move you to the right word-by-word much like a word processor, also stopping on periods, hyphens and underscores (maybe other punctuation as well?). Same with Ctrl-Left.

Alt-Right: would move the cursor on top of the last period in the filename (ready for insert *before* the period. Same with Alt-Left if you're at the end of the filename. I could also see this position (on top of the last period in the filename) being the default when you hit TAB, as was suggested early in this thread... in fact, I really hope this does become the default. Especially since Alt-Arrows are a bit more of a reach than CTRL-Arrows. (I could easily concede using the SHIFT-arrows instead here)

Ctrl-DEL (I first proposed Ctrl-END, but I like this better) would delete from the current character (INCLUDING the current character) to the end of the filename.

Ctrl-BACKSPACE (Originally proposed as Ctrl-HOME) would delete from the current character (NOT INCLUDING the current character) to the beginning of the filename.

All these modes default to INSERT mode.


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