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Re: Make Directory Enhancement and DirSpec

Posted By: Mathias Winkler <>
Date: Sunday, 30 August 1998, at 9:04 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Make Directory Enhancement and DirSpec (John Gruener)

> My caution is that many of the new, very desirable things which
> are being suggested, (including some of my own), go well beyond
> the original design of XTree, and therefore require, I think, some
> careful thought.

Good point, thanks! We have to be very careful, indeed, to keep the
consistency of the original XTree design on those new features to do!

> Directory level things, such as directory level
> tagging and DirSpec fall into this category. Kim has done an excellent
> job of preserving the look and feel of the original XTree, while
> adding new capablities. I just don't want us to push him too quickly
> into uncharted territory without our thinking through some of the
> ramifications and/or alternatives. The more completely we think
> through a design for Kim, the easier his job will be.

Agreed, thatīs the way it is!

> If un-logging, I would rather call it an UnLogSpec. This, it
> would seem, would be relatively easy to do as compared to a real
> DirSpec. You could even have a complementary LogSpec to log only
> a certain set of directories, but this might get more complicated
> than we need. It could even be one LogSpec using negative signs
> to indicate directory names not to be logged. In any case, this
> would just be another "tool" to quickly get the tree logged
> the way you prefer, but would be subject to any subsequent logging
> or unlogging in the normal manner. It would, of course, require
> that you first log the entire branch, (or drive), before performing
> the UnLog-by-Spec. I assume, also, that any directory at any level
> under the selected branch would be unlogged if it met the UnLogSpec.

An "Un-LogSpec" seems to be most consistent for me, too;
remember, XTreeGold 3.0x announced a new command line option:

/Lch Log "full disk": ignore directories that start with 'ch'

Although this one never really worked with XTreeGold, it certainly
comes very close to the function Dan originally asked for,
namely an "Un-LogSpec" to exclude unwanted directories like the servers
"_vti_bin" , "_vti_cnf" , etc., to be done with a command line
switch like "/L-_vti_*" to prevent all "_vti_*" directories from being logged!

> We probably
> should stick to negative specs on the directories). But with the
> HideDirSpec we now have to deal with a new "state" of
> the display, just as when a FileSpec is invoked. We must have a
> way to show this state, lest we forget that certain directories
> are "missing".

True! To remeber the user, this could be indicated in the (unsplitted)
dir-window in a similar way as XTRee/ZTree currently indicates the
respective files-specs in split-screen mode!

Any comments?

Regards
Mathias

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